Journalist Bob Woodward tells John Dickerson, 'Trump was the wrong man for the job,' as he discusses his collection of recorded interviews, 'The Trump Tapes,' what the audio reveals about the fmr. pres., and his belief that Trump is 'dangerous.'
For nine months back in 2020, when the phone rang at Bob Woodward's Georgetown home, there was a good chance it was a call he didn't want to miss:Woodward noted,"The phone would ring; is it a robocall, or is it Trump?"
Woodward told CBS News' John Dickerson,"In many ways it's the missing piece of the Trump story. We've heard a lot of Trump. He's said a lot. But what did heWoodward has written about the calls, but hearing Trump in his own voice, he believes, is enlightening:"I've reported on this in the book I did, 'Rage.' But I then went back and listened to these tapes and said, 'My God, there is a whole new Trump that emerges.
Dickerson asked,"He says about the North Korean leader, 'If he shoots, he shoots.' How did you react to that?" But a presidency based on personality was overmatched by COVID-19. What Woodward called one of the most stunning moments of his 50 years of reporting was learning that on January 28, 2020, just days after the first COVID-19 case was confirmed in the United States, Trump's national security adviser Robert O'Brien had given him a grave warning:
When Woodward learned about that disconnect between what the president knew and what he said, he asked Trump why he didn't sound the alarm:Woodward:"Was there a moment in all of this, last two months, where you said to yourself, 'Ah, this is the leadership test of a lifetime'?"Woodward told Dickerson,"When you hear this voice and the way he assesses situations and himself, he's drowning in himself.
Woodward:"Everyone says Trump is going to stay in the White House if it's contested. Have you thought ..."
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