Jerrod Carmichael on Why He’s “Thankful” for Ellen DeGeneres and Making Gay Jokes Before Coming Out

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Jerrod Carmichael on Why He’s “Thankful” for Ellen DeGeneres and Making Gay Jokes Before Coming Out
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Jerrod Carmichael spoke about the 'fear' he felt onstage filming his special Rothaniel and why distance from his family right now is 'OK'

He went on to say that he was “specifically thankful for you,” explaining to DeGeneres how her decision to publicly identify as gay 25 years ago had a direct impact on him, before jokingly calling her “a gay white Desmond Tutu just spreading love.”

He said, “We both faced whatever obstacles coming out and everyone has their own personal journey, family things and personal things to overcome. But you faced coming out at a time when, I mean, it just was impossible. There was no precedent. There was no Ellen DeGeneres to come out to show you what it’s like.

“I watched it with my mom. I watched all of it. I watched your sitcom. I watched you talk to Oprah. I watched the interpretive dance in the special,” he continued. “My mom watched you and she laughed at you and you were welcome in the home. It’s no small thing. I don’t want to discount that, because it’s really huge. Being Southern and Christian and these things — the idea of having a gay person welcome in my mother’s home — it seemed impossible. And you did it.

In turn, DeGeneres Carmichael “my hero” and revealed she had texted the comedian “right away” after his special debuted, before asking him about the emotion he was feeling during the live comedy show, to which the

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