‘Stranger Things’ Star David Harbour on Joyce and Hopper’s Future: ‘They Have a Very Complex Love for Each Other’

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SPOILER ALERT: Do not read if you have not yet watched Season 4 of “Stranger Things,” now streaming on Netflix. For those who got used to seeing David Harbour as Jim Hopper, a lazy poli…

The actor was excited to dive into the darker side of the character and how he was feeling about the trauma in his past. During Season 4’s fifth episode, he has a long monologue with the guard-turned-prisoner who tried to help him out and got caught. In the speech, during which Hopper details the pain of losing his daughter, he also says that he views himself as a “curse” and feels responsible for everything bad that has happened to El and Joyce .

“I really liked the film noir idea of — it’s sort of in ‘Memento,’ where a man is chasing himself. We have this idea with Hopper: He’s a cop, so he sees things pretty much good guys, bad guys, pretty black and white. There’s a situation with cancer where his daughter dies. It’s cancer. What can you do, right? Who can you who can you lock up when a tragedy like this happen? Then what he really starts to do is go back, and the real bad guy is himself,” Harbour tells .

“It’s something that we’ve mapped out; how much they want to show is really up to them. Winona and I postulate a bunch of stuff, we have a bunch of theories. Some of them are very wild, and some of them are very tame,” he shares with a laugh. “In general, they had a time in high school — they knew each other when they were super innocent, and they had all this potential, both of them. Now they don’t have much potential. They’re sort of what they are.

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