The following is a transcript of an interview with Reps. Jason Crow, Democrat of Colorado, and Tony Gonzales, Republican of Texas, that aired on Nov. 5, 2023.
MARGARET BRENNAN: And we're back with the co-chairs of the For Country caucus in Congress. It's a group of veterans who are working across the aisle. Its leaders are Colorado Democrat Jason Crow, and Texas Republican Tony Gonzales. It's good to be here in person with two people working across the aisle, this kind of conversation rarely happens these days.
You know, it's a tough time in Washington period to have a serious conversation. But that's what I think you see in this- in this caucus, whether you're Republican or Democrat, we are serious legislators. We're very different, you know, 435 members coming from different districts and having different priorities. But we are serious in our discussions. We're also deliberate in delivering. I think that's the other piece of it, too.
Why? Just the division in the country in general, it's so much easier to blame the other side for everything that's wrong instead of coming together and finding a solution and taking ownership for the problem. It's easier to just blame the administration or blame the House Republicans and round and round we go, but I do think it was positive to see us pass in the House a couple of appropriations bills this week.
That's right.REP. Well, we're in an era where a lot of times you don't make anybody happy. Right? I put that--MARGARET BRENNAN: But this is often framed as either for or against terrorists. You're saying no, you can prosecute a war on terrorism without causing mass civilian casualties.REP. In every war- in every war, there's casualties.MARGARET BRENNAN: You think it's unavoidable?REP.
I mean- I mean, exactly- I mean, actively supporting- supporting Hamas, and you're- you're on a visa, it's a no brainer that you should be deported. But the administration isn't doing that. That's why this- I think this resolution is important, to hold the administration accountable. You can't just say--MARGARET BRENNAN: Do you have evidence that they're not deporting fundraisers for Hamas?REP.
I- I don't pay attention to what the previous president is kind of-- MARGARET BRENNAN: --You endorsed him.REP.
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